AUDIENCE. (amusement)

ANSWER. Let's say the ones who've had a rough time. …

ROBBIE. I can kind of understand … I mean I've grasped it. And then I get out there, and I find that really trying to do this – I feel sort of like lost –0– like I lost my anchor. The difficulties that arise – the changes that I have with my relationships with people I find disconcerting, because I'm disrup– it's feels like I'm disrupting … the way things have always been. And I'm making people pissed at me. And that's definitely– I don't believe that's my intent. I don't think I'm intentionally trying to go out and do that. Is that kind of part of the un–

ANSWER. Well I'm not intentionally trying to go out and do that either but–

ROBBIE. (laughing)

ANSWER. – there's often the same result! 11:00:00 … Apparent disruption is not automatically cause for you to stop coming from the Place of Excellence in you. It is one of the ploys the ego uses to maintain the status quo and keeps from happening – keep miracles from happening.

Well, when you were confronted with that, you find yourself feeling at a loss. Right?

ROBBIE: Yes.

ANSWER. Yes.  Oh! So there you are at the edge.  Right? Well you were at the edge before you moved over enough to feel confidant … to do this new thing that you're doing, which seems to be meeting resistance.  So … change is occurring. Shifting is occurring. Stay at the edge that it pushes you forward into, so that you can listen and be appropriate under … under the new … elements of change that are now occurring.

ROBBIE:  Mm. When that … disruption happens … I'm sometimes not sure – am I going the right direction?  Have I … Asking myself, uh – am I slipping off? Did I get off into another – a new ego kind of thing.  It's real tricky – slippery – … very slippery. Is that–

ANSWER. The difference between the two will become more and more obvious as you persist in the experience of stepping up to the edge and leaning into the Unknown – into the Void – to listen for how to be and what to do and what to say next.

You're not so totally unconscious that you don't recognize when you have really slipped into ego. It's only in the – what I'm going to call – the new area of trust-building you are engaging in by being in a new way. You have to persist long enough for the trust to develop so that there is not as much fear associated with being – with being out of control, but still acting in the world. You see?

ROBBIE. Yes. … That's feels better. I think I know what You mean. There's no where else to go cause what was before is not there any more, so I only have – there's only forward to go – a little sideways. (laughing) 14:40:9

ANSWER. What we're talking about … all along the way here is the building of trust … around … being … in the world without using all of the mutually–agreed–upon definitions that have been put into place that seem to provide a sense of real security. …

ROBBIE: Thank You.

ANSWER. You’re welcome. Hands?  Right there.

ANN:   Excuse me. You mentioned that God's Will and ours are one, …and based on this last two weeks – when a lot of really crazy things have happened – I kind of was thinking about that.  And I've been listening to your CD. I realized that – because I was being distracted … by my own definitions of everything.  So then I g-  I had this very own idea that maybe the smartest thing was quit thinking about the past, and quit trying to play for the future, which left just now and … to drop all the definitions and drop all the defenses that I had.  And I noticed the thought would come up, and there was all kinds of defense around it. 

And when I would let all the defense go, I could just feel … my whole body … energized, somehow.

And that … this is leading to where my question is really.  Okay.  So then, I’m thinking:
All right, I'm not a body, I'm a mind. So what does a mind do? Well a mind thinks.  And I think I heard you say: It Creates.

ANSWER.  What a mind does is: it pays attention.

ANN.  Oh, thank You.  I knew that there … there’s more than that.  I knew there was more!  Thank You.   And you know me: I really want definitions of everything.

ANSWER.  Well thinking is a distraction from paying attention.

ANN.  This is so cool!  Thank You. (laughing)

ANSWER.  Yes.  Get that down in your book of definitions!  [audience laughter]

ANN.  (laughing)  Thank You.

ANSWER.  It is well to have the reminder, because this is a reminder…  to let go of definitions.

ANN.  Yeah.

ANSWER.  Continue.

ANN.  I think that really handled it.  I really wanted to understand what a mind does.  …  And, …  you know, if that’s what I am … if I’m this mind, then I need to pay attention–  and it has to be in the now.

ANSWER.  Well mind automatically does that.

ANN.  Oh!  I don’t have to make it do that?  Okay.

ANSWER.  When you stop thinking, … you’ll find that … what’s left is … you paying attention –

ANN.  Mm!

ANSWER.  – you, being conscious.

ANN.  Oh.  Okay.

ANSWER.  And actually, you will find yourself paying attention in a way that constitutes being more present with everything than you have been before – because always your thinking has stood as a ... barrier … a … a cushion between you and that thing.  So you … have not really been able to be intimately present with everything because you’ve got this …  definition sitting between you and it.  You see?

ANN.  Mm hmm.

ANSWER.  So … as you let go of the past – as you let go of the definitions – you end up – you might say – just being Pure Consciousness.

ANN.  Thank You.

ANSWER.  Now pure Consciousness is not … … infinite space … absolutely clear of anything in it.  Consciousness … is the experience of attentiveness to what there is to be attentive to – which is Creation …

ANN.  Okay.

ANSWER.  … God.

ANN.  Okay.  Okay.

ANSWER.  So … you will find yourself being a better driver.   You will find yourself … being a better organizer, if that’s what’s needed.  Or, you will find yourself being … less organized because you were … too compulsively organized before.  You will find yourself being so present with everything – in such an appropriate manner that … the only way to … to describe would be that you will have the experience of being more alive and more connected with everything.

ANN.  That would be good.

ANSWER.  And everything will extend way beyond what you’ve … in the past – called everything.  … So, you will not lose your capacity to be intelligent.  You will not begin to do foolish things. … You will be the Presence of an orderly mind – you might say.  Not by virtue of your ordering it, but an orderly mind that sees order everywhere, that is – by virtue of its fundamental, intelligent structure – communicating intelligent structure – and … expecting to see intelligent structure.  Not by plan – but just by Function.

And everything will reflect back to you … the …  the quality of Truth with which you’re looking at everything.

Now, … in practical terms that means … that everything that needs to get done will get done.  All of your relationships with … the people in your experience will … will be healing – or will be harmonious.

(You? or –) It won’t be airy–fairy, strumming a harp.    Your everyday life … will – every element of it will fit together in such Integrity – that there’s not a single space for confusion or chaos to enter.  And every aspect of it will be in Movement – the Flow of Creation – Identifying the Father’s Will.  

And so, you will feel the … orderliness of it – I’m even going to say: the sub–atomic orderliness of it – … the Orderliness of the Movement of Being.  And you will feel it right in this room here!  You will feel the space that seems to be empty … and how it configures perfectly with every board in the ceiling – and every indentation in the walls where the windows are – and how perfectly the glass interfaces with the space inside … and identifies … Beauty.  And more.

You will feel … the perfection of all of the space, … and everything in it – in the space.  You will experience the awesomeness of this room – the outdoors – of your home  – of the space in between – of the way your car moves from here to there – and the space that the air took up before your car … moved into it … shifts to the space behind it, and so on. 

You will feel the Integrity of All of It.  And I tell you:  It’s an awesome experience.  Not one that you – in bliss – are sitting back, having about everything else – but that you – Engaged in the Movement yourself – experience.

What I’m trying to convey here, again, is not an other-worldly experience, but a new experience of right where you have been all along.

And why will you have this experience?  Because, in the absence of thinking, you will find that what is left … is Consciousness – … Consciousness being Attentive … and experiencing … What Is Here – without the interference of the definitions about everything that is here, that you were employing before.  And I will stop there with your answer.

ANN.  Thank You.

ANSWER.  You’re welcome.   …  Over here.  27:24:5 complete.

DENNIS.  Thanks Raj.  I too have been chewing for the past couple of weeks – mm, struggling if you will with the– you know on the one hand, I felt like … in a way– the way you described–  some of us may feel this is unfair that you’re asking us to do this, you know.  And … because … if just seems – too advanced – like, wait, wait – shouldn’t that come at the end of the book, or something?  Because uh … you know, I’m having a hard enough time getting to a point where … where I …

ANSWER.  Let Me .. Let Me say this:  The end of the book is where the last step is taken.  And we’re talkin’ about the second step.

DENNIS.  Okay.  Well, I’m still struggling with the first step. 

ANSWER.  Indeed, and as … as I said– as I’ve now said:  You now have to take two kinds of steps together.  Yes.  Continue.

DENNIS.  Right.  And … and I feel like I’m one of tho-

ANSWER.  Wait a minute.  And I also said:  You are capable of it.

DENNIS.  Yes. 

ANSWER.  Okay. 

DENNIS.  Oh, I totally– I totally know that!  Mm.  I was blessed in the past by … mm … a point in time when I was at the bottom of my bucket.  And I was in a complete state of– I give up God.  You know.  Take me out of here.  Whatever You’re going to do with me, it’s okay.  I’m … I’m through with this– you know – Whatever happens, I surrender –kind of attitude.  And out of that – when I meditated, thinking: Oh, okay.  This is fine with me if it’s the last time I ever meditate – you know – this is– I want to go to Heaven – you know wherever, I want to be out of here – was my attitude.  And somehow, by grace, I had a – an awakening – or what I’d call nowadays like a preview of coming attractions experience … where it was very much like you described.  In other words, there’s like a spontaneity of right action – appropriate speech – a state of living in fulfillment and knowing that  my needs are met moment by moment.  And there’s … a spontaneous expression of … sharing – wanting to give from that overflowing of your heart.  ….   …  But, okay, that … that sort of dwindled away.  And I got back into the ego state where … everything is a struggle and … and I see – you know even though I have that memory back there of that experience, I’m still in a state of– okay a state of   And … and all the ego could do would be to try to pretend or say: okay, I’m going to try to behave like Christ. – I’m going to be good, and I’m going to– you know … it’s … it’s … it’s an act!  It’s the best that could be done!

ANSWER.  Exactly.

DENNIS.  And … and … and it’s not – it’s just another costume.  It’s not the real thing!

ANSWER.  it’s just another delay.

And so … so … inside me, I know … I know the difference experientially, and uh … and so I just go back and say:  Look, there’s nothin’ I can do … other than meditate and hope … that I … I can let go of my resentments toward family members and other people, and all these bullshit stories that I have that I want … mm justice …

ANSWER.  Let Me …

DENNIS.  So I really appreciate what you said tonight.  32:33.0

ANSWER.  What can you do?  What am I asking you to do?

DENNIS.  What it … what it … what I was struggling with – which tonight you’ve brought some clarity to is– It seemed like you were asking us to … not only to know ourselves as Christ, but to see that Divineness in our brother and our sister and our neighbour and our … boss, and … everybody.  And … And I was feeling like whewsh – I can’t even see that in myself right now – experientially.  Or I could do was to try to imagine it – or intellectually define it.

ANSWER.  You want to know something?

DENNIS:  What!?

ANSWER.  If you – or anyone else who might ever hear these words – listens … you will learn something wonderful.  If you find yourself ill and in the hospital–  …  You want to know the surest way to have healing? …  Find someone else – perhaps in the very same room you’re in – someone else who is in the hospital – and devote your– let them be the object of your affection.  … If you want healing, give healing.

‘’Oh!  But you ask too much!  I’m in the hospital.  I’m not in tip-top shape!  I don’t feel energetic!  34:27:10 probably .  I don’t feel like giving.’

Well that’s why you’re in the hospital.  You see? …

Illness is … is an extreme form of isolation … cause by self–preoccupation – in one way or another.

And so, here you are – I’m saying – in the hospital.  –  And I’m saying, what you’re called upon for is to be willing to have someone else in need be the object of your affection – and give your devotion … to that one – listening to God for … the Truth about that one.

‘Oh!  Oh!  You mean– But what about me?  I’m the one who’s in the hospital that needs healing!  You know.  Who’s gonna do this for me?  You want me to do it for them?’

Yes.  Why?  Because it’s the way you break your isolation.

It’s never gonna be easy to break your isolation, because it’s a very ingrained habit.    And anyone asking you to do what it takes to break the isolation is going to seem like an unreasonable demand, because you have other things to take care of.  You have more urgent things.  Blah, blah, blah.

Tain’t so.  You have only one thing that you need to do, and that is: break the isolation.

And so, if you want healing, be a healing presence – whether you think that it’s an opportune time or not!

If you want healing, give healing – because what you give you get to keep.  What you actually really extend becomes yours – becomes embodied. 

And you know what?   There’s always going to be some apparently worthy thing for you to attend to other than … what I’ve just told you to do.   There’s going to always be some sort of emergency or urgency – or … strong need that you feel compelled to deal with.

But I’m telling you that those things are the result of your having forgotten to say:  ‘Father, help!’  You have forgotten to let someone else in.  So find an object of your affection, and extend Love … so that you might have Love.  Continue.

DENNIS.  Yes. I … I appreciate that … shift of perception.  I can be dwelling on something from the past that I have grievance over.  And …And then maybe the phone rings, and it’s one of my sons. – And … And I’ll just– instantly, I’m in a state of gratitude – appreciation.

So the mind is really fickle in that way.  It … It … It can shift from … from one thing to another.  I could be totally depressed in one moment, and the … and then …

ANSWER.  But there is something …

DENNIS.  … very happy in the next.

ANSWER.  – there is something determining where the attention is going to shift to – and whether it’s going to do it at this moment.  So you … There is a decider there.

DENNIS.  Yeah.

ANSWER.  You could have answered the phone, and found out it was your son, and … and projected all of your negative feelings about the past that you had been ruminating on onto him, and ruined the conversation.

DENNIS.  Right.  Right. 

ANSWER.  Okay.

DENNIS.  Where I … where I have a little bit of a ‘yes but’ in … in what you’re … saying here …

ANSWER.  Yes.

DENNIS.  … is … affection.  Mm.  If I see … something beautiful, I don’t have any trouble … felling Love and appreciation for it.  I comes spontaneously.  But if I see someone who is … the way you described.  Say I’m in the hospital and … and the guy in the bed next to me is in worse shape than me – or maybe not.  Whatever.  Mm. … I don’t want to get into a – sort of a … a self-righteous kind of … okay: I’m … I’m going to extend Love to this decrepit, poor person because …

ANSWER.  Definitely!

DENNIS.  … I want healing for myself.  That’s bullshit! I …

ANSWER.  That’s right. 

DENNIS.  I want it … I want to be coming from natural, real …

ANSWER.  (?)

DENNIS.  … affection.

ANSWER.  You don’t want to do any of it yourself.

DENNIS.  Right.

ANSWER.  What I mean by this is: that if you’re going to extend Love – you’re going to have to turn first to the Father  – and ask the Father to reveal to you what is lovable about this man.  What is the Truth about this man?  And you are going to listen for the Father, just as Paul is listening … for Me right now – so that you might be infilled with what the Father extends – so that you might – so that your perspective is changed and automatically embraces that one.

And there won’t be anything about … your doing something for somebody else so that you will get something.  I’m just explaining to you that when you do that, something does happen!

DENNIS.  Right. 

ANSWER.  And you get to keep what you have given.  And you will never have what you never give.  Okay.

DENNIS.  Yeah.

ANSWER.  I want to make …

DENNIS.  Okay. 

 ANSWER.  … sure there is time for …

DENNIS.  Sure.

ANSWER.  … anyone else.

DENNIS.  Thank You.

ANSWER.  Yes?  end track 1 CD~2.  41:48:–

QUESTION.  Thank You, Raj.  The answers … of some of the other people who’ve asked questions have already given me some of the answers to my question, but being a father, and a brother and a husband, – over the last two weeks I’ve had the chance to enjoy the last lectures we’ve enjoyed  on the Course – have been sort of a person tsunami for me because of the–

PAUL.  (questioning noise)

QUESTION.  Personal tsunami of my own with the family that we’ve–

PAUL.  Personal sunomi?

QUESTION.  Tsunami.  Tsunami.

PAUL.  Oh!  Tsunami!  Okay.  (laughing)

QUESTION.  ‘Considering of what we’ve just gone through.  And I have to wonder how one can … bring all these personalities into some kind of agreement – even when I walk with the Course in my hand and my heart.

ANSWER.  Why do you have to bring them all into agreement?

QUESTION.  That’s a good question.  It … it seems to be such a personal conflict and chaos in the family with … with a … personalities.

ANSWER.  A … a … a conceptual one?  Or … or … a …

QUESTION.  There is a strong feature about each personality in my family, and they seem to … seem to find the differences, not the commonalities to … to allow Love in our lives that makes our – my perception to try to–

ANSWER.  They love … mm … rigorous interchange.

QUESTION.  They do that! (said softly) … It gives me an opportunity to use the Course In Miracles frequently.  … But sometimes I think my feet are still in the concrete.

ANSWER.  …  ‘Father, help me … help me neglect … to exercise judgment just because I am with those … whose … rigorousness makes it appear to me that they are expressing more ego dynamics than I – for myself – want to employ.’

What I’m trying to say to you is that maybe what they’re doing isn’t all ego dynamics, but just a different way of expressing themselves – sort of a different language of communication than the one you’re familiar with – and which – because you’re not familiar with it – causes you to feel inadequate … at a loss. … …  I am suggesting that you go within to ask whether any exercise of control is needed at all. –  And if not, how you can be present with it … without engaging in judgment – and how you can be with it without feeling threatened by its intensity?  To be spiritually aware does not mean to become delicate and unable to withstand … vigor.

QUESTION.  Thank You.

ANSWER.  You’re welcome.  Over here.  4:17:6

QUESTION.  Raj, What’s interesting for me is that I’m in a situation in my life right now where … it’s a relationship that started out as a contractual agreement, in that I had some technical work that needed to be done on a project that I was working on.  And I wasn’t – I didn’t have that technical ability, so I contracted someone to come in and do it.  And what I thought was going to turn out to be a three-month project is now … going over ten months.

And … it’s a situation where initially, I felt:  well the person’s just incompetent.   And so, I need to just take all my stuff back from them, and find someone else.  And then I thought:  Well, you know – and again, I … I’m giving you the history – because for me there was a shift in it, in that mm … mmm … you know, then I thought – I beat myself up:  Well I should’ve had a termination date in the contract.  And so I went – all this number one stuff about … about doing business the right way… came up.  And then I thought … I thought:  Well, wait a minute.  This … No.  This is a lose-lose relationship.  I’m not getting what I need from the relaitonship, and she’s not getting what she needs from the relationship.  So let me look deeper into this.

And then, of course, just by coincidence, we’re covering this stuff in the Course.  And .so now I’m saying: Okay, so what the real message?  What is she telling me?

So I set up some meetings with her – at her house – with the computer – to work on the project, so I could be right there with her – involved in the project as she was working.  Then I realized that this lady has so many other distractions going on in her life. that it’s very difficult for her just to sit with the problem for any length of time.  And so I’ve …  been with her now on several occasions to try and move the project along, and … I’m still –it’s like, the first thing I came up with is:  There’s an attention-deficit disorder going on here … where she can’t – she can’t really bring her forces to bear here.   

And then on my side, it was me saying, you know: She’s taking advantage of me here.  You know, my patience, my resources, whatever.  So … there was a real charge behind it.  And that’s what fascinated me about the situation is that whenever there’s that much of a charge behind the situation, I know that there’s more meat here to chew on, and that I need to go in with it … – so I can get clear – because until I can get clear, it’s not … it’s not going to move on, or I’m going to have to repeat it again.

So … that’s the point  that I’m at now, where … where it’s coming to … to like you know:   The ball’s in her court again.  She’s got … She’s got to finish this thing up and present me with a finished project – a finished product.  And so now I’m … I’m … I’m being more open and … looking beyond … the surface than ever I have been with this situation.  So, I am at that point – like you said tonight, where I’m going: ‘Father, you know?  What’s … what’s going on here?  What … what’s … what’s the meaning of this situation?’  But, yet, at the same time, I don’t want to get caught in this situation of: Well, I’ll give her just one more chance.  I’ll give her just one more chance.  You know – It’s like – …

Or the situation of:  Well if I … If I really pray hard and be open to the Father, the problem’ll go away!  You see what I mean?  So that’s my question: What’s the appropriate – you know, okay, now, I’m waiting.  I’m listening.  I’m paying attention.  Is that all?  Do you stop there?  Do you just … keep paying attention?  Or what’s the … ?

ANSWER.  The … That’s exactly what you do.  You continue paying attention.  The new modus operandi is:  pay attention, pay attention, pay attention, pay attention.

That’s called Being. 

QUESTION.  So instead of taking the initiative, it becomes responding appropriately.

ANSWER.  Exactly.  And responding from a deep connectedness in you – to the Movement Itself – irrespective of personality, psychologies … mm …mm … mm … mental disorders … or definitions that are out of the past.

You Be in the – in Life – ongoingly – with innocence.  …  

QUESTION.  Well, just – I mean, you know, so I’ll ask if:  That’s what I’m doin’ now.  Right?

ANSWER.  That is what you are doing now …  … but you are still struggling with letting go of some ordering structure or grid to hold Movement up against, so that you may judge – or a judgment–

QUESTION.  From this.  Yes.

ANSWER.  –may be made. (simultaneously)   Indeed.  And that’s … …

QUESTION.  Silly.

ANSWER.  It’s the useless stuff–

QUESTION.  Yes.

ANSWER.  –that you are learning to let go of.

QUESTION.  Right.  Because in … in effect, that sense – I mean holding on to that structure – says: I know the timetable for this particular thing to be done – as opposed to following God’s timetable, so to speak.

ANSWER.  Yeah, you notice also, that you’re talking about circumstances, projects, time, et cetera.  We didn’t read anything about circumstances, time, projects.  We were talking about relationship and … the necessity for each of you to be willing to see the Holy Spirit – or the Christ in your brother – just as you are learning you have to do with yourself.  And to reach for – to lean into – to connect with the Holy Spirit in your brother – or your sister.

And that you’ve spoken very little about here.  But … but your attention is in that direction.  I simply want to bring it … more solidly in that direction.

You … you don’t give your attention to the Excellence in them so that you can find out how to be in better control or to find out what their problem is.  You … you talk to the Holy Spirit to find out what the Truth about them is – so that you – in your Conscious Awareness of Truth about them are sending out those messengers about them.  They will come back reporting what they were sent out to find – which will be confirming of your right intent, but which will also be a blessing … for this other one.  You see?

QUESTION.  See what I’m … experiencing right now is I see the person struggling, so like I’m a little bit fixated on their struggle, saying: How can I support this person in their struggle?

ANSWER.  Mm … Who … who … what … what’s the definition of struggle – what … what – and what degree of struggling – what’s the degree of the intensity of the struggle–

QUESTION.  Right.  Right.

ANSWER.  This is … This is something you’re applying–

QUESTION.  Right.

ANSWER.  –to a benign … picture.  You see what I’m saying?

QUESTION.  Right.  Now, theoretically – I can s– and I say this theoretically – I can see – … I mean I know that this person is a good person.  The Holy Spirit–

ANSWER.  How do you know that?

QUESTION.  Because I can feel it!  You can– I can feel that this person’s not a bad person.  They’re not trying to take advantage of me.  They’re not – you know – jerkin- me around.  They’re doin- the best they can.

ANSWER.  Yes, but I want you to feel they’re a good person because the Holy Spirit has revealed it to you, and not because … because you can sense that she fits into a certain … structure of definitions.

QUESTION.  Right.

ANSWER.  You see what I’m saying?

QUESTION.  Yes.

ANSWER.  I want it to be – I want you to be looking more for an experience than a sense–

QUESTION.  Right.  But the thing is–

ANSWER.   –that … an experience that has been derived from an actual connection with the Holy Spirit.

QUESTION.  Right.  And that … that’s … that’s why I’m get– trying to get at here.  That is not – That does not come from trying to see it in the other person.  It comes from being open and … and asking to be shown.  Correct?

ANSWER.  And I am telling you that you that you – from your human experience – recognize that she exhibits – let’s say – a certain number of criteria that tell you that she is a– basically a good person.  And that’s not the same as a direct connection with the Holy Spirit. 

QUESTION.  Right.

ANSWER.  So I’m I’m … I’m pointing you in the direction of going deeper for a Holy Spirit experience, rather than a recognition that certain criteria have been met that allow her to be recognized as a basically good person who’s overwhelmed herself for whatever reason.

QUESTION.  Right.

ANSWER.  Yes.

QUESTION.   And … and the best way for me to … to receive that is just ask for it and be open to it.

ANSWER.  Exactly.

QUESTION.  Not … not … not having … not doing.  There’s nothing to do here.  It’s just–

ANSWER.  Except ask.

QUESTION.  Except ask–

ANSWER.  Step right up to the edge … of what you don’t know, and lean into it with the desire to know–

QUESTION.  Right.

ANSWER.  –the Truth

QUESTION.  Right.

ANSWER.  –that needs to be known–

QUESTION.  Right.  At this point it seems like–

ANSWER.  The Truth that heals.

QUESTION.  Right.  It’s – to me – at this point it seems to me like that is more important than project completion – or project success or–.

ANSWER.  They’re so inseparable.  It’s not funny.

QUESTION.  Right!  Right!  Right!  But what I’m saying is: My attention is now on wher–what, what, what – the real value is: What is … how can I make this connection?  How can … How can I see the miracle unfold –

ANSWER.  Yes.

QUESTION. –from the situation?

ANSWER.  Exactly.

QUESTION.  And just be with that.

ANSWER.  Exactly. 

QUESTION.  Okay.  Thank You. 

ANSWER.  Yes.  15:32:3 last track complete. 

If we end right now, is there anyone who will go away, and be absolutely angry because they didn’t speak up.  [audience laughter]   Okay.

QUESTION.  Just dejected of heart, probably would have been it.  Mm.  I’ve … I’ve been kind of fuzzy about the understanding of what extending healing meant.  And as everyone’s been asking – and as you’ve been talking – I think I’ve realized that I thought if I extend healing, I would see a change – … out there.  And I feel like I feel – you know – affection – in here – for … an object of my affection out there, and then they 16:34:0 start to talk. (laughing) – You know?  And then they’say their complaints– or their whatever.

ANSWER.  Yes.

QUESTION.    And … and I can’t … I can’t agree with what they’re saying, but I haven’t known … how to offer anything else.  I did have a–

ANSWER.  They … they don’t want you to agree.  They … they want a different answer themselves!  They want … not to have to register that complaint or that perspective. And so you have to listen for what the answer is.  You have to listen for what the answer is so you can share that.  What’s behind the moan? 

QUESTION.  Mm hm.

ANSWER.  What is the … what is the … what is the Truth that makes them … feel the illegitimacy of their experience, so that they have justification for complaining about the experience?  Do you see what I’m saying?

QUESTION.  Yeah. … I did it with a stranger once.

PAUL.  Pardon me?

QUESTION.   You know … I … It happened to me with a stranger.  And I really leaned in – you know – to my Guidance, and I heard: ‘I’ll give you a new experience of this person if you don’t run away.’  And we didn’t have any words.  But I … totally received – you know –a miracle and a blessing – and really saw the beauty of them.

I find it – I mean maybe I just am not leaning into it as much with people that I know and I’m having a conversation with.

ANSWER.  Exactly.  Like I said, you know them too damn well,–

QUESTION.  (laughing)

ANSWER.  –to think that there is–

QUESTION.  Right!

ANSWER.  –a Place of Excellence in them.

QUESTION.  (laughing)  Yeah!

ANSWER.  You see?  Yes.  And … of course … that’s your judgment.  And those are the messengers–

QUESTION.  Right.

ANSWER.  –you send out.  And … and communication doesn’t occur–

QUESTION.  Mm.

ANSWER.  – no matter how much talking goes on. …

QUESTION.  Because when it happened that spontaneous time – like I had no – you know – agenda for that person … having a change – in front of me … even though … he did have a change.  You know – he went from being snarling and everything to being calm.  But I think I’m … you know – quote ‘extending healing’ to a lot of people around me – to change them, and to – you know – control the situation – or something.  And so … that’s not leaning into the Holy Spirit at all!  You know?

ANSWER.  Yes.  The key here is one of the … one of the pieces of gristle … 

”The message your brother gives you IS” – all capital letters – “UP TO YOU!”

If you think there is an ego there, and you’re listening for an ego to speak, an ego is what you’re going to hear … even if they’re speaking the utter Truth.  If they are speaking the utter Truth and you recognize the Excellence of it because you’re expecting an ego to speak, you are going to be suspicious of the motive for such Holiness and Excellence that’s being expressed.  And you will not see it. …

And if they are coming from an ego place, and what they are saying is an expression of confusion and misunderstanding of What They Are, … you, if you are listening for the Holy Spirit in them, will hear what is behind their poor expression – so that you can respond to that. 

QUESTION.  Oh.

ANSWER.   But what you hear will be up to you.

And that is … the key.

Now, just because we move on doesn't mean that this … chapter should be left behind.

Review it over the next few months. Review it. Remind yourself.  Because it sets a foundation for the rest of what is to come. …

Okay.

QUESTION.  Thank You.

ANSWER. Was there another question over here?   Okay.  … … You are a wonderfully lovable, motley crew.

AUDIENCE. (amusement) 

ANSWER. I Love You greatly, … and I look forward to being with you next week.

22:53:9 last track, complete.

About 2 hours and 1 minute.

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